Re: [-empyre-] if only bricks could talk as they smash into windows

[//jonCates <joncates@criticalartware.net>]

On Nov 17, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Ryan Griffis wrote:
> >but your bringing up life_sharing begs the question... are your only 
> choices either a brick or elitist aesthetics?

in what way(s) do you mean that Life Sharing:

http://www.0100101110101101.org/home/life_sharing/

is or involves "elitist aesthetics?"

> >and while i completely agree that discourse (however we're using it 
> here) would be pretty limited if it existed exclusively >on some 
> esoteric and hidden web site (as the gift economy article does).

++ in terms of the "esoteric and hidden web site" you mean the 
Contextin' Art mini-portal that hosts your:

Ryan Griffis: Gift(Wrap)ing New Media
http://art-design.smsu.edu/acm/contextin/spring_03/texts/gift.htm

txt? if so, in what way(s) do you mean that Contextin' Art is esoteric 
[+/or] hidden? a "Contextin' Art" search thru various archives such as  
fineArt forum, Net Art News, nettime, NOEMA, Rhizome.org, etc will 
locate the URI above... also, altho Google wants to rephrase the 
"Contextin' Art" search to "Context In Art" it still returns the 
results i just mentioned. so the "Contextin' Art" site is not hidden by 
any means nor is your "Gift(Wrap)ing New Media" txt, esp in light of 
the fact that you personally posted the txt to various platforms, it is 
hosted on the sites i mentioned + that you currently link to it on your 
own site:

http://www.yougenics.net/griffis/

so i don't understand how  or why you are positioning your 
Gift(Wrap)ing New Media txt or the Contextin' Art project as 
"hidden"...

what remains open for me is your positioning of Contextin' Art as 
esoteric + this loops bak into my question of how Life Sharing is or 
involves "elitist aesthetics". i am wondering + curious about how + why 
you are positioning these network oriented works [+/or] New Media art 
projects as "esoteric" [+/or] "elitist"...

// jonCates
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